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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Feb 4, 2012 9:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Hey Yoko/Helen/DS, you should check out the SirMick source. It's definitely an improvement:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1973-11-20.sbd-patched.sirmick.76616.sbeok.flac16

This whole show is just about perfect. Below are some notes I wrote on the 1st set a few months back. Haven't gotten around to/felt motivated enough to review the 2nd half yet, but I'm sure it'll happen eventually. The level of musicianship and consistent excellence the band was putting out during this part of '73 is amazing!

Ramble On Rose:
The perfect way to open up this beauty of a show. The '73 treatment works magnificently on ROR. The first 3 and a half minutes are played flawlessly. Jerry sweetly eases into the solo at 3:32, and demonstrates his wonderful phrasing, which differs greatly from the '72 sound they were coming out of.. Take note of 3:35 – 3:39 for instance. Listen to that same part of the song in almost any other year, and you will hear a small flurry of notes from Jerry. In this example, Jerry takes several long seconds in between notes, letting the other instruments fill the gap very nicely. Jerry's change in phrasing is also noticeable in his side projects in '73. Phil adds some nice touches to this version as well. His choice of notes around 5:17, 5:30, and 5:42 are just perfect. Outstanding version. 
A+

Mexicali Blues:
One of those tunes that doesn't change much over time. A strong version nonetheless, and Jerry's solo is another example of how he's not as up front as in previous years, and lets the other band members be more present in the overall sound. 
A-

Don't Ease Me In:
Same story with Jerry's solos on this one. Keith and Jerry and both leading the way, with the solid backbone of PhilBill. Not much else to note. Tight playing though. 
A-

Black Throated Wind:
Bob's guitar and voice sound great on this one. Many times he over accentuated his vocals, but they are just exactly perfect here. Even the refrain at the end, “GOIN, GOIN GOIN BACK HOME” is not overdone by Bob like it often was. I love Keith's piano at 2:36. It's one of those lovely little moments that really stands out to me. Phil is all over the place with special little moments like that on this song, with a few starting around 3:50. Solid effort.
A

Brown Eyed Women:
Very nice guitar work by Bob. I love this version. Everybody is locked in tight and contributing equally.
A

Beat It On Down The Line:
Very nice mini-solo that I found extremely enjoyable. Jerry and Keith are really jelling. 
A

To Lay Me Down:
A really sweet version. What else would you expect from the honey year? Everyone's playing accentuates one another's. It's beautiful to listen to and closing your eyes makes it all the more better. It's a shame this song was only played 3 times in '73. The '73 sound is perfect for songs like these. Only 14 versions played prior to 1980, and this is one of the sweetest ones. Nice vocal harmonies. The band's vocals were very tight during this part of the year, which is very evident in this entire show. Excellent performance here.
A+

The Race Is On:
It sure is fun to listen to Phil's bouncy notes throughout. It's difficult to compare versions of this song, but this as good as any other I've heard. Keith sounds great on this one too. 
A

They Love Each Other:
THE year for this song. I love the fun, laid-back, bouncy, feel-good vibe. Great rendition here. This is the first Jerry solo of the song that really jumps out at the listener. No subtle lead-in to the solo this time. Jerry's guitar is loud and upfront, leading the way with Keith's help. It's a joy to listen to. Listen to Jerry and Keith take it up a notch at 2:57, and really play off one another. 2:57 – 3:44 sizzles with creative energetic improv. 
A+

Me And Bobby McGee:
I song I often skip, but I would never think of skipping over this one. A fine effort both music wise, and vocal wise, which is something that can't always be said about this song. Bob sounds as good as he's ever sounded on a Bobby McGee. 1:44 – 2:35 is golden.
A+

Tennessee Jed:
Keith really shines here. His best contribution to the show thus far. Jed is one of those songs perfectly suited for Keith's style. Some nice subtle touches from Bobby as well. From 3:32 – 3:50 is a another good example of the shift in the band's style. They play more like a small orchestra than a rock band. Someone plays a passage, leaves a musical gap, and lets it be filled by the accompaniment of the other instruments. This takes such incredible skill to effectively achieve considering that they're improvising, and they each have to work together as conductor of the orchestra. With Jerry's guitar solo as well, the guitar doesn't dominate the sound at all. He steps back and really allows the collective efforts of all the band members to work together. Wonderful effort.
A+

Big River:
Listen to Bobby sing and work the guitar together so well. Bob really matures as a musician in this period of time. He does some amazing stuff in '73, and some even better stuff in '74. The absence of Mickey allowed him to step up and be a more instrumental part in their sound. Excellent work here by Keith as well. Another perfectly suited song for him, which he never disappoints on.
A

Row Jimmy:
One of the staples of '73. You won't hear a poor version the whole year, and this is no exception. Fairly standard version, however the excellent instrument separation on the sound mix really allows one to appreciate the collective sound they were trying to achieve. Keith adds some nice touches to this version.
A

Weather Report Suite:
Simply magnificent! '73 has the best versions of WRS. The first 1:30 of instrumental playing contains some gorgeous, delicate playing. Once again, Bob's voice isn't overpowering in spots where it normally would be in other versions. Sometimes the over accentuated vocals are due in part to the sound mix, but even if Bob's vocals were bumped in this mix, I think they would still sound good.
A+

Let It Grow:
Coming out of an excellent WRS, it's no surprise that this LIG is stellar. More great vocals from Bob, with great sounding accompanying vocals as well. Jerry's licks are super sweet here too. Check him out from 2:54 – 3:24. Exquisite playing. After the next verse, Jerry takes things up a notch with some more upfront guitar-work like on the solo from TLEO. It works splendidly before they ease things down a notch. Listen to Keith take off around 6:18, which spurs Jerry to follow suit with some more bold, speedy licks. Jerry, Keith, and Phil simultaneously lead the way for the next few minutes in what is the real meat of the song. Bobby and Bill add some lovely color to the jam as well, particularly the latter part. This jam is worth listening 6 times to really appreciate. Listening to each instrument on it's own, and then hearing the collective effort, really lets one appreciate every subtle nuance. I just wish the jam went on a bit longer. Nevertheless, everybody shines on this song.
A+

Casey Jones:
Check out Bob's guitar playing here. He makes this version a special one. More sweet licks from Jerry too. Some lovely touches from Keith as well such as 2:58 – 3:02. He was such an integral part of the sound. Fun version here, and nice way to end the this superb first set.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Feb 4, 2012 7:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Oh hey there wisconsin/dinero,

Yeah, the recordings are subtley different, have you ever been to the Denver Coliseum, what an armpit, it's amazing that these 2nd or 3rd generation soundboard recordings sound pretty good.

In terms of speculation, how is it that a 21 year old laddie has such a great depth of knowledge of music from the 60s and 70s and knows many fine Grateful Dead shows from that period as well?

Resides in a refined maple floored house, affords to feed and shelter two dogs of a somewhat exotic breed, affords to smoke reference ganja and has the available time to hang out on the internet all day?

Hmmm, sure seems fishy :).


PS Don’t forget to watch The Puppy Bowl VIII tomorrow on Animal Planet @ 3PM.

http://animal.discovery.com/tv/puppy-bowl/

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Feb 5, 2012 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Haha. Are he and I really that similar? I think Rich also accused me of being Wisconsin. I don't see much similarity between us other than our close proximity in age. I'm 24 by the way, not 21. Three years ain't too long, but it seems like it to “laddie” such as myself.

> have you ever been to the Denver Coliseum, what an armpit
Never been, but I live in Jersey, which many would consider an armpit. I agree, the recordings of many of these old shows continue to amaze me.

As for my “great depth of knowledge” of '60s and '70s music, I'd say that's a bit of an overstatement, but thanks! I do consider myself fairly well-versed in a lot of music throughout the entire 20th century, as well as classical music. I've listened to music all my life, and have been totally obsessed with it since around age 11, so I don't find it too peculiar that I know a decent amount about it. I still have many years of learning ahead of me though.

That “refined maple floor” you refer to in the pic I posted of my Labradoodle is actually just cheap, laminate flooring that's made to look like wood. The floor had just been cleaned, which is why it looks so shiny in the picture.

I'll opt to not address my financial situation on a public forum. I've been 100% honest in everything I've ever said at the LMA, and if you'd like to start doing the same, I have no problem answering any question you have. My e-mail (well, one of many), is rdenirojb87ATyahoo. Feel free to ask me anything you like.

The Puppy Bowl is fun when I'm really stoned!

Here's a great song I recommend for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvL5E3GJVGY

This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2012-02-05 16:18:30

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Feb 5, 2012 8:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Yeah and I suppose it is one of those fake Labradoodle's too. Sum sorta hybrid or sumthin.

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Poster: utopian Date: Feb 5, 2012 2:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

I thought you lived in Boston?
I'm gonna email you

Peace

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Feb 6, 2012 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Good response,

I'm not accusing you of anything, just a little teasing in return, both you and Wisconsin have been gentlemen here and for the most part rise above the immature and petty insults and attacks.

I respect your privacy and believe that privacy in the internet age is a valuable commodity. It's not fun having been painted the Saint Sebastian of the Grateful Dead forum particularly with all the years clocked and my life experience.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Sebastian

Skobud, who started this whole Kochman bullshit is seriously damaged goods, what you’re not paying attention to is the fact that not one shred of evidence has ever been submitted that proves his grand delusion? Everything i’ve ever written here at the forum is the truth, though I may have made a mistake, once or twice, on “timelines” consistent with my 54 year old memory. Why people get emotionally attached to their perceived status on an internet chat room is beyond comprehension in my mind.

I’ll make a point this year of breaking out my Nakamichi CR-7A and opening the tape boxes labeled 70s, transfer the tapes i recorded at the Auditorium Theatre on August 23rd, 1971, write a review, submit, upload and post and then once again you'll be reminded of the fact that more than 60% of what you read on the internet is bullshit!

What I never understood about “Dead Heads” when growing up was why these crazy, crazy people would be so completely stupid as to paste Grateful Dead stickers all over their VW vans and buses, drive the interstate freeways, dressed in full-on tie dyes, long hair flowing, open drug use with the stash not being very discretely located. That’s fish in a freakin barrel for the State Troopers and Highway Patrol.

Have fun, stay high, but be discrete if you catch my drift.

In terms of Eric, the version of “Tell the Truth” from the live Derek and the Dominos LP is the sweetest rendition. Do you have a turntable and are you into vinyl?


God Bless,

How’s about the Eli man?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Feb 6, 2012 1:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Mitt Romney's got $10,000 that says those tapes never surface. How old were you again when you made those recordings?

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Feb 6, 2012 5:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

You say there is not one shred of evidence to prove Skobud's grand delusion, however there is actually quite a bit of rational evidence if one is willing to dig up a lot of old posts, which sadly I spent the time doing recently, and was rather surprised/entertained at a lot of what I found. Anyway, I'd rather not continue this particular discussion on the GD forum. If you really aren't Koch, could you send me a quick e-mail and just give me the satisfaction of asking you one or two simple questions? Lol, I've dug too deep to let the trail go cold at this point! By the way, I could care less who you are. All I care about is what you post, and under the dark.starz handle, I enjoy most of your posts.

I agree about the D&D version of “Tell the Truth.” Nothing compares. That was one of the first albums I heard that really got me into Clapton. I was a huge Allman Bros. fan (and of course still am), and listened to it because of Duane. Sadly, all I knew of Clapton was just a few songs I'd heard on the radio (Layla, Cocaine, Wonderful Tonight, I Shot the Sheriff, My Father's Eyes, and It's In the Way That You Use It, are the only songs I knew when I was really young). I knew some Cream songs from the radio too (short studio versions of course), but didn't even know Clapton was in the band at the time.

I love vinyl, but don't have my own turntable. I've listened to some new vinyl recordings that have come out in the past few years and they sound incredible. Much better than the old records I have from my parents. Perhaps those records are just old and worn though.

Eli proved he is indeed “elite,” and the Giants did exactly what I expected them to do the past two weeks. Hats off to Tom Coughlin too. A great old school coach, who deserves as much respect as any coach in football right now.

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Poster: Skobud Date: Feb 8, 2012 6:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

http://www.archive.org/post/390397/1971-12-01-too-and-gt-mamu-and-gt-too

Well?

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Poster: Skobud Date: Feb 7, 2012 5:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Im straight up calling you out. Post the tape or shut the fuck up. This is like the tenth time you've threatened to post it. Do it. Prove me wrong. I would love nothing more. Let put an end to it.

I guaran-fucking-teee this shit does not exist. Its as much of a mirage as your identity.

Prove me wrong Koch. Here's your big chance....Well?



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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Feb 7, 2012 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Hey, if we didn't have Kochstarz around, who would turn us on to such overlooked shows as 5/9/77 and 11/20/73?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Feb 8, 2012 6:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

you know, IF Koch is deniro, then he's become a decent person who is an articulate poster, so either way, get over it. Or don't you like people to be healed of their negativity? Personally. I'm working on my mean spirited sarcastic political rants...(no love there). It's alienated me from a few here, a few that I'll prob never be able to meet in person - which I regret.

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Poster: Skobud Date: Feb 8, 2012 10:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Earth to Rasta - I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Dark.starz is Koch, and I have no idea who dinero is.

As far as the rest of whatever the hell it is you are talking about - good for you. Im glad negativity is no longer a part of your life.

Now piss off and go troll someone else.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 4, 2012 8:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

maybe he started taping shows when he was 7 years old.

I would think that of all people, you would be last to question the truthiness regarding someone's identity around here.

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Poster: Skobud Date: Feb 5, 2012 5:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Rob - you are such an idiot. All anyone has to do is click this screename and read your nonsense lies.

Im just glad to know ya Koch - You provide the entertainment around here.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 5, 2012 5:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Okay, I'm sold ... except:

"Me And Bobby McGee: I song I often skip"

???!!

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Feb 5, 2012 8:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Not the biggest fan of Bobby McGee. 116 versions in a roughly 4 year period is a bit too much for me when the song doesn't vary too much from one version to the next, and doesn't allow much room for jamming. I certainly enjoy the song, but I don't feel the need or desire to hear over 100 different versions of a relatively short tune. It's one of the few songs I can't recall any standout versions, and I'll gladly take a recommendation of a great one if anyone is able to do so.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 5, 2012 10:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

I'm not a huge of of the song either. It's been sandwiched into The Other One several times, but I don't know if it helped either song. I think 5/3/72 in Paris might be the best of these.

I prefer the 1971 renditions myself. Don't know if I would consider any of these great, but 7/2/71 and 11/7/71 are pretty nice. And the 12/5/71 Felt Forum performance, though not flawless, is pretty neat, with some gorgeous jangly guitar tones and a sweet and smokey Garcia solo...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-05.prefm.miller.3391.sbeok.shnf

This post was modified by Cliff Hucker on 2012-02-05 18:59:52

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Feb 5, 2012 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: WRS Prelude, WRS Part, Let It Grow > Looks Like Rain

Give this one a shot.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-09-28.sbd.miller.94268.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Feb 6, 2012 1:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby McGee

I like this version from Baltimore.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1973-03-26.sbd.miller.34787.sbeok.flac16